Selling ARCs (AKA: Reasons I Want To Punch People)

7.02.2012
There be cussing here. Ye be warned.

I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said. I'm saying it anyways.

I was on eBay yesterday. And I guess I've always known people sold ARCs on there - people have mentioned it countless times - but I never noticed how many. I never noticed how many highly anticipated ones were on there, either.

I'm not telling you they're on eBay so you'll go out and bid on them. I'm telling you that people go to BEA and ALA and then sell those books they get for free on eBay. (There were several books that have only been available at BEA and ALA to the "general public" of people who receive ARCs.)These people are getting $20 for something they got for free. They're getting $20 that will never benefit the publisher or the author, even though those ARCs cost money to make.

(And we won't even get into the fact that every ARC I've ever owned or seen has said "NOT FOR SALE" or something of that sort somewhere on it.)

I could spend hours ranting or showing you statistics, but people have already done that. Emily White has a post about it here. Shannon Messenger also has a post about it. And of course, there are thousands of others.  Plenty of authors that you love have lost out on sales because someone buys an ARC off eBay. (Not to mention the fact that it's just fucking annoying.) This is a great post by Mandy Hubbard about how much an author actually makes. And after doing plenty of researching, I've learned that on average, an author makes somewhere between 50 cents or $2.50 on a hardcover sold. (However, I cannot be 100% that those numbers are exactly right.)

And okay, yes. Authors wouldn't have actually earned anything on that sold ARC. But that ARC has been sold to someone who would have potentially bought it. That ARC could have been received by someone who would have read it, loved it, convinced their friends to buy it when it came out, passed it on to someone else who would have done the same. We have no idea how many sales that may have lost.

(And it's also fucking annoying.)

(Because, hey, "NOT FOR SALE.")

~Zoey~
8 comments on "Selling ARCs (AKA: Reasons I Want To Punch People)"
  1. I completely agree with everything you said here. It _really_ makes me mad to see ARCs for sale anywhere, even at my local Half-Price Books, even when the actual published copy has been out for a while.

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  2. As someone who has an ARC up on ebay right now ... I totally agree!!!!
    I tried to report it to ebay, but couldn't figure out how. I guess I need to tell me editor. Grrr.... it makes me grumpy!

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  3. I agree with you. It makes me so mad to see people selling ARCs that were given to them for free. I mean, publisher gives these ARCs to promote these books, and they only one thing in exchange (well, beside reviews..) and it is not to sale those copies.

    It makes me so mad to see those ARCs on ebay. I would never sell the ARCs that were given to me, nor would I ever buy one. It just isn't fair to the authors.

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  4. I keep running into ARCs like nobody's business here in Tucson. I've seen them for all kinds of books, but there are a lot of YA books I've found. Where? Every single one at the local Goodwill. It's bizarre. These books have all been out, and in reality, I buy most of my books used anyway, but it's surreal to see them sitting there on the shelves. I don't know if Goodwill is exempt from this sort of thing (I should think not), but it's not just one or two. Every time I go, I see new ones. Even though they're for books that have been out for a while -- with the exception of the first one I saw, which was Keplinger's Shut Out.

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  5. I fully agree with you and your feelings are 100% justified, I have wanted to find these people and punch them in the face for being so greedy.

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  6. yeah I saw a fellow blogger having a book sale and ARC books were included in them. I left a comment telling her about it.. I should probably go back and see what she said.. *runs to look* she didn't reply, but the books are gone from the selling list. hopefully no one really did buy them.

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  7. This is a ginormous pet peeve of mine. Not only are they ruining potential sales and being greedy, but they're ruining it for the rest of us. They will eventually stop making ARC's if this crap gets any worse. Powell's has ARC's on their shelves sometimes and MANY of us have pointed out to them that it is WRONG but they just say that its not wrong once the book is released. I love Powell's, but this one thing makes me never want to shop there again. I mean, seriously! I saw an arc at a yard sale over the weekend and showed them that it said that it wasn't to be resold. Luckily they were nice and put it in the free bin. They just didn't know (it was mixed in with other books). But businesses who sell them puss me off. And ebay is even worse cause they KNOW its wrong. Stupid flipping idiots.

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  8. I totally love this post! I've heard the rumors but I've never seen it before. Now I want to head over to ebay and see! But that totally makes me sick to my stomach!

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7.02.2012

Selling ARCs (AKA: Reasons I Want To Punch People)

There be cussing here. Ye be warned.

I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said. I'm saying it anyways.

I was on eBay yesterday. And I guess I've always known people sold ARCs on there - people have mentioned it countless times - but I never noticed how many. I never noticed how many highly anticipated ones were on there, either.

I'm not telling you they're on eBay so you'll go out and bid on them. I'm telling you that people go to BEA and ALA and then sell those books they get for free on eBay. (There were several books that have only been available at BEA and ALA to the "general public" of people who receive ARCs.)These people are getting $20 for something they got for free. They're getting $20 that will never benefit the publisher or the author, even though those ARCs cost money to make.

(And we won't even get into the fact that every ARC I've ever owned or seen has said "NOT FOR SALE" or something of that sort somewhere on it.)

I could spend hours ranting or showing you statistics, but people have already done that. Emily White has a post about it here. Shannon Messenger also has a post about it. And of course, there are thousands of others.  Plenty of authors that you love have lost out on sales because someone buys an ARC off eBay. (Not to mention the fact that it's just fucking annoying.) This is a great post by Mandy Hubbard about how much an author actually makes. And after doing plenty of researching, I've learned that on average, an author makes somewhere between 50 cents or $2.50 on a hardcover sold. (However, I cannot be 100% that those numbers are exactly right.)

And okay, yes. Authors wouldn't have actually earned anything on that sold ARC. But that ARC has been sold to someone who would have potentially bought it. That ARC could have been received by someone who would have read it, loved it, convinced their friends to buy it when it came out, passed it on to someone else who would have done the same. We have no idea how many sales that may have lost.

(And it's also fucking annoying.)

(Because, hey, "NOT FOR SALE.")

~Zoey~

8 comments:

  1. I completely agree with everything you said here. It _really_ makes me mad to see ARCs for sale anywhere, even at my local Half-Price Books, even when the actual published copy has been out for a while.

    ReplyDelete
  2. As someone who has an ARC up on ebay right now ... I totally agree!!!!
    I tried to report it to ebay, but couldn't figure out how. I guess I need to tell me editor. Grrr.... it makes me grumpy!

    ReplyDelete
  3. I agree with you. It makes me so mad to see people selling ARCs that were given to them for free. I mean, publisher gives these ARCs to promote these books, and they only one thing in exchange (well, beside reviews..) and it is not to sale those copies.

    It makes me so mad to see those ARCs on ebay. I would never sell the ARCs that were given to me, nor would I ever buy one. It just isn't fair to the authors.

    ReplyDelete
  4. I keep running into ARCs like nobody's business here in Tucson. I've seen them for all kinds of books, but there are a lot of YA books I've found. Where? Every single one at the local Goodwill. It's bizarre. These books have all been out, and in reality, I buy most of my books used anyway, but it's surreal to see them sitting there on the shelves. I don't know if Goodwill is exempt from this sort of thing (I should think not), but it's not just one or two. Every time I go, I see new ones. Even though they're for books that have been out for a while -- with the exception of the first one I saw, which was Keplinger's Shut Out.

    ReplyDelete
  5. I fully agree with you and your feelings are 100% justified, I have wanted to find these people and punch them in the face for being so greedy.

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  6. yeah I saw a fellow blogger having a book sale and ARC books were included in them. I left a comment telling her about it.. I should probably go back and see what she said.. *runs to look* she didn't reply, but the books are gone from the selling list. hopefully no one really did buy them.

    ReplyDelete
  7. This is a ginormous pet peeve of mine. Not only are they ruining potential sales and being greedy, but they're ruining it for the rest of us. They will eventually stop making ARC's if this crap gets any worse. Powell's has ARC's on their shelves sometimes and MANY of us have pointed out to them that it is WRONG but they just say that its not wrong once the book is released. I love Powell's, but this one thing makes me never want to shop there again. I mean, seriously! I saw an arc at a yard sale over the weekend and showed them that it said that it wasn't to be resold. Luckily they were nice and put it in the free bin. They just didn't know (it was mixed in with other books). But businesses who sell them puss me off. And ebay is even worse cause they KNOW its wrong. Stupid flipping idiots.

    ReplyDelete
  8. I totally love this post! I've heard the rumors but I've never seen it before. Now I want to head over to ebay and see! But that totally makes me sick to my stomach!

    ReplyDelete